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This one is not with me either but again from Bob Babbit of Competitors. He discusses the Trials — what worked, what didn’t — and his thoughts about London (and his big mistake in Beijing).

Ryan Hall, Jan. 17

One of my favorite running videos is of Ryan Hall, from some years back. He was one of my favorite runners, although I confess that my enthusiasm wavered when he quit his coach and said, essentially, that he was going to be trained by god. A prohibitive favorite to make the 2012 Olympic Team in the marathon, as he did for 2008 (and I was among the many who got to watch the trials, in Central Park), I recently came upon a very nice interview with him by Bob Babbit at the Chicago Marathon Expo, from CompetitorRadio.

Ryan Hall Interview


An addendum: I never got around to a comment made by cg a bit ago on my Wasteland post of last year (which itself was prescient because I have again left Facebook and Twitter largely for the reasons identified there) in which some uncomplimentary things were said of me. Whatever. She’s probably right.

I mention this for two reasons. cg wrote,

here’s a non-running-related one that may help…so, someone like me likely can’t lift 100 lbs (arms). but for an nfl linebacker, that’s nothing at all. the point being that some exercises for some people are ‘easier’ than others.

you’ve oft stated that you think all runners should be able to run the same workouts. i would challenge you to run the ones ryan hall suggests for your pace, then. and that’s w/no other health issues.

First, in the Hall interview, he mentions doing two sets of 6 push-ups and that he barely made it (although he notes that he could still beat the Kenyans at that) and I know I barely could. Upper-body strength: It’s relative.

Second, it is true. I’ve often said, and believe, that “all runners should be able to run the same workouts”. That’s hardly novel. It is the cornerstone of Daniels, and what I did when I coached SSRMC, including cg. The key is that the pace is different and the distance-covered is different. Should everyone be running 100+ weeks? Who has the time (and I know I don’t have the mentality). But the essence of training doesn’t seem to matter to me whether one is running a sub-5 or a sub-8 pace. It is interesting, as I’ve noted, that Hall only runs six times a week.

“I was in the race but I was watching the race finish on the Jumbotron, that’s how far behind I was.”

Charlie Spedding’s book, of course, is entitled “From Last To First.” In this interview with Bob Babbitt, Ryan Hall talks about the frequency with which he finished last in track races, when he thought he was a miler. He also speaks of doubts about himself that led him to take a term off from Stanford to get his head straight.

After moving up to the 5,000, the above quote is a reflection that 5,000s might not be for him either. And so it was that he moved up to the Marathon. He has a great line from his coach Terrence Mahon for running a marathon: “Run the first 20 with your head and your last six with your heart.”

He’s not “first” yet, but he has a legitimate shot (although I hope Lel’s not too close when they hit Columbus Circle on Nov. 1). It’s a good interview, and nice discussions about some of his races. Here is part I of V.

He’s in a crowd of triathletes and notes that he doesn’t know how people can train for them, given what he has to for his one event.

Ryan Hall tweets (@ryanhall3). He just tweeted about his custom shoes for NY:

Ryan Hall's Shoes for NY

Ryan Hall's Shoes for NY

I assume he’s racing in the ones with the Italian-flag design in the sole. Or is it the Irish?

His Tweet from Sunday:

    Fast 30k at 9000ft followed by a carne asada torta, 90 minute massage and 12 minutes icing in the creek. Great day. Next up Lighthouse at 7.

I’ve long enjoyed listening to the podcast of The Competitors, which comes out of San Diego with Bob Babbit and Paul Huddle.

During my run today I listened to an excellent one with Ryan Hall, Josh Cox, and David Goggins (you’ll know who he is when you listen). Best image: Ryan Hall parachuting to the start at NY (I’ve tweeted him that he should do it).

This was the Sunday after Boston. For some reason this hasn’t shown up on iTunes yet. Well worth a listen.

I put up the stuff on Lance Armstrong because I just came upon it and thought it merited mention given my earlier posts. But that stuff’s really a downer.

So I’m putting my number for tomorrow’s race on my jersey and my chip on my shoe and getting my stuff together. I always have aches and pains and nervousness the night before a race, and tonight’s no exception. Tomorrow is the Scottish 10K, and among the things I received with my number were a parka emblazoned with a St. Andrew’s Cross and a St. Andrew’s Cross flag, that being the flag of Scotland. It is a flag I carried during ceremonies for the World XC championships at the Meadowlands in 1984, when I led in the Scottish women’s team.


Ryan Hall after winning the 2007 Olympic Trials, Central Park

So the 10K finishes at Tavern on the Green, so it is an important race, since only important races finish there. Don’t know what’ll happen, but I hope to run decently. We’ll see.

The point of this post, however, is not me. It’s a couple of things on Ryan Hall and Boston. There’s an interview with him and Amby Burfoot and Pete Gambaccini — a tall, thin runner against whom I used to race in the early 80s — that discusses his Boston prep. But the favorite part is this:

You do long marathon buildups with relatively few races. The marathon also requires lots of long training runs. What do you primarily think about during these long months and long runs?
RH: Do you want the encyclopedia or the “Cliff Notes” version? I think about lots of different stuff. What has been different in this buildup is that for the last three months there has been a theme for each month.

For the first month the theme was “fire.” Fire in the sense of passion and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Then it wings. We see bald eagles out here from time to time and they always get me fired up to feel the pleasure of flying when I run. I like to picture myself soaring in the windstream of God’s wings when I run. The last month has been “joy.” I have just been really enjoying my training, Mammoth, friends, our church, just life in general for the last three months. Recently, I have just been basking in that joy in the same way that my Dog basks in the warm sun that shines through our window on a cold winter day. I am not wishing away any days, I am just loving each moment as they come.

Then there’s this Flotrack video of previewing the Boston course, infinitely superior to one of a certain Nike athlete to which mention might have been made on this very blog earlier this week.

(That photo is one I took from the stands at Tavern on the Green after Hall won the OT in 2007.)

Wilkins Micawber famously said,

Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.

This truism applies quite well to running. There’s that line, sometimes quite a thin one, between starting too fast — misery — and starting just right — happiness.

Yesterday’s run was on the miserable side of the line. Today’s was on the other. Nice and easy as a recovery kind of thing and I suddenly found myself going pretty fast and gaining a smoothness of stride that makes running well fun. Or running, well, fun.

And when that happens, I try to channel Ryan Hall’s form. Smooth, relaxed, arms swinging easily. And fast. Of course I’m not Hall fast. But it’ll do.

Here’s a link to Hall from Gaspirilla. Not one of his better races, but he’s training for Boston. Here’s a post-race interview (while he’s taking an ice bath).

And what he’s looking to do at Boston.

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