NYRR puts on quality events. Is its 10K better or worse than anyone else’s? Objectively speaking, probably worse:
- The Crowds. As I’ve aged and, more importantly, slowed, I find myself farther and farther back. I pretty much only run Club races, which are denser at the front than other races, and finishing between 200th and 250th. On the course, it’s congested. Not overly so, but enough to be annoying. I can’t imagine what it’s like behind me.
- The Corrals. NYRR has done a good job of segregating runners by ability, at least based on past, if stale, racing-times. One has to get into one’s corral, however, about 15 minutes before the start. I speak of the blue corral. I don’t know how much more congested things get behind, but it can’t be better. So one is locked into a bunch of people, with little room to move. This is especially bad in cold and wet weather when in just a singlet or even a single long-sleeve layer in January and in hot, sunny weather when you’re exposed to the sun.
- Limited Warm-Up. Since one must be in the corral so early, one must just stand for the final 15 minutes before the start. This works nicely to defuse one’s enthusiasm for the race-to-come, in addition to whatever physical things that happen.
- Capping. This is actually a good thing. Unless you want to run a race and it’s closed to you. But, apropos to the above, Scotland was capped and still had 8,500 finishers.
On the plus side:
- Promptness. The races start on time.
- Certification. The course is generally certified. I’ve noticed, though, that the cones marking the courses in Central Park seem to be randomly placed. A little research suggests that the course is in fact measured by the rec lane and 1/2 of the center lane. But a look at USATF’s course-certification site shows few NYRR courses, and many of the ones there are quite old. I couldn’t, for example, find the course used for the Scotland Run or Healthy-Kidney 10Ks. (Here’s the list of certified courses in New York, New York.)
- Timing. Races are timed by D- or B-tags and get up promptly.
- Price. Races are not expensive, at least for NYRR-members who register early.
- Ease-of-Access. If you live in Manhattan, the races are easy to get to. For me, in Westchester, I find it easy enough to drive and park at Marcus Garvey Park and either jog or take the subway to the start.
- Baggage check. You can check your bags.
On the I-could-go-either-way side:
- The giving of awards at the race doesn’t seem to happen. So one needn’t wait around and feel obligated to wait around. Instead one can go to NYRR after the race, for 30 days, and pick it up. The awards, however, are pretty much the same for each race, a bit of plexiglass that is recycled if not picked up. The exception is the Marathon, for which one gets a Tiffany plate. But even that, in my experience, isn’t mailed; it has to be picked up.
My alternate universe is local races in Westchester, but I’m sure it’s like this pretty much everywhere. Take this Sunday. Although I won’t be running it, the Rye Derby is a 5-miler. Nice crowd, with some über-fast people at the front. You can park nearby (there’s no baggage-check so that’s where you put your stuff), jog around and do some strides right before the start, people pretty much line up where they’re supposed to, horn goes, splits at every mile, non-certified but fairly accurate (I think) course, and water stops. Now Rye is one of the top races in Westchester, but most of this stuff appears at most of our races.
Wow. It seems pretty straight-forward. Why would I want to put up with the hassle that unavoidably characterizes NYRR races — and because it’s inevitable it’s not NYRR’s fault — when I can the same thing elsewhere? For me, that reason is simple, the Club series. It’s where the top local guys in my age-group show up. Which explains why I don’t particularly care about the non-Club NYRR races.
But but-for the Club series, I wouldn’t bother.
Now there are some who will say that NYRR bears some responsibility, that’s it’s 9 + 1 program has created artificial demand and thus artificial congestion. Perhaps. In the end, though, it is what it is. Sadly I think that NYRR has a mission that differs from that of NYRRC. I’ll get into that some other time.

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April 30, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Stephane
I miss the time when you could always register at the last minute at any race. The competition is certainly there, the hype too thanks to the gentrification of the running community.
April 30, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Mark Thompson
I run a few of them each year. One reason is that there are not a lot of 10Ks & 15Ks here in the burbs, so NYRR is where I can find them, particularly in the winter months. I’ve also run the Manhattan Half Marathon, since that’s the only half marathon around in January. Speaking of which, that was my worst experience in a corral. Standing around in 14 degree weather waiting for the horn to go off was not fun. It’s also a shame that NYRR recently moved the Queens & Bronx Half Marathons to the summer months. Try standing in a corral & then running 13.1 miles in 88 degree heat. I’ll never do that again.
May 1, 2011 at 4:08 pm
nyflygirl
Well, for those of us local midpackers who want to run NYCM-the 9+1, hence running NYRR races, is our only way in. Chances for locals in the lottery are slim to none, and the qualifying times are not in reach for everyone (even with my best half ever, I was less than a minute off)
May 1, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Dave B
Why do I run NYRRC races? Simple: I can easily get to them by mass transit. Like many people in the NYC area, I don’t have a car. There are probably some great races within 20 miles of my home, but if I can’t get a ride to them or get there by mass transit (which has infrequent or nonexistent service early on weekend mornings), they might as well be in Idaho.
May 2, 2011 at 11:38 am
stephanie
NYRR races have gotten out of hand – the organization is much worse than lets say 5 years ago. No one checks the corrals, so you see people in yours that totally don’t belong. Warming up can be a challenge, to! Having done tons of those races I’m kinda done. I do prefer smaller races no doubt about it.
May 3, 2011 at 4:07 am
Ewen
I’ll be looking for an alternative when I’m there in July.
May 4, 2011 at 10:41 am
Brenn
The prompt race results and the ability to compare the results to prior performances on the nyrr website is a plus. Despite the crowding, I like having a bunch of people to run against. But the primary reason I run nyrr races is simply because they are there. I don’t think runners generally think too deeply about the organization that puts them on.
May 6, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Robert James Reese
When I first arrived in NYC, I was a big fan of NYRR races. They seemed so much better organized and efficient than any of the small races back home that I had run. I still think think that they excel in those aspects, but after a while, the crowds, corrals, pricing, etc. take their toll and the races become much less exciting. I agreet with you that the club series is a great idea of theirs and it’s fun being able to participate now (even though I never actually score for our team).
May 15, 2011 at 4:46 pm
steve lastoe
NYRR’s primary mission is to get as many runner’s out there as possible. This is a laudable goal and one they have well accomplished. At the same time, they have made 9+1 the method for local runners to get into the marathon – a solution I happen to like.
Unfortunately, the price that local runners pay for this is that their races are horribly overcrowded. I’m not so sure this is something that can or should be rectified. Smarter people than me should determine the value of local resources like Central Park.
However, as NYCRUNS begins to produce it’s own races, one way I look at that mission is that we want to reach people that are running and help them become runners (if they aren’t already). Well managed races, clubs, knowledgeable support, and community are the hallmarks of good running imho.
May 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm
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