Peter was showing a new arrival around, the gym’s over there, the dining hall here, etc. when they turned a corner and came upon a tremendous wall, extending left and right as far as the eye could see. Startled, the newcomer turned to Peter and asked what it was. “Oh, that’s for the Catholics. They think they’re the only ones up here.”
This joke was told to me in sixth or seventh grade by a nun. I recalled it during today’s run — a relaxed eight-miler along the BRP — as I thought of a recent group of emails I received and a conversation that I had concerning the Rockies, that cathedral of New York-area running. Last year, signs went up around Swan Lake saying that runners’ access to that area was limited to no more than two. This is a difficult rule because your normal group consists of four or five and I confess to having violated it with some Warren Streeters. It was put in place, I was advised by someone at the Rockies, to address hordes of high schoolers that descend around the lake and disrupt other Park users.
Fair enough, if too limiting. I was contacted the other day by Tony, an ultramarathoner who clued me in about the two-person limit — for posting on my WestchesterTrails site — who said something was afoot regarding further rules and regulations.
After some email exchanges with someone actively involved from the “running community” side and a telephone conversation with someone else from that community, I came away with the following.
There is an interest in barring running around Swan Lake and running to the Visitors’ Center at certain times during week-ends. My sources suggest it will be between 11 and 5 during the summer and fall. An alternative, apparently hellish route to the Visitors’ Center is being made. This is important because the Visitors’ Center is the sole source of water, and bathrooms, in the Park. (I say “hellish” because it involves going up an additional hill once one gets to the top of the hill from Bedford Hills Road, which is a hellish hill in itself. As a practical matter, there is no way this affords meaningful running access to the Visitors’ Center. Anyone who’s run up that hill will understand.)
What’s the point of mentioning St. Peter? In all my time at the Rockies, the only problems I have had have been shouting at clueless WTC people blocking the trail and calling to walkers spread across the path that I was “On your left.” Actually that “calling to” should be “shouting at.” And it happens to the oblivious. Not just at the Rockies, of course. People blocking the sidewalk or the path, and I shout so I don’t have to slow down. And if they move with one shout, I’ll say “thank you” as I pass. If I have to do it twice, no “thank you” from me. That shout can sound rude, but it has its purpose.
Thus when I shout at people walking completely across a Rockies path, I’m sure I’m labeled “rude” and “inconsiderate” by those I pass. And apparently walkers have been complaining to the Rockies administration about being unable to enjoy the peace of the Park and the administration believes something needs to be done to address these complaint and that something is restricting access.
I don’t know what the basis for the complaints are. I just speculate that if I were in a group walking completely across the path and someone shouted at me to move over, or worse, I’d be put up upon. And if I were the type I just might call the Park and complain of an unruly old guy who was rude as he raced past.
Putting aside large groups of runners, which can be handled in any number of less-restrictive ways (and thoughts to address that are apparently being batted around), I don’t understand why the recognition that there are multiple users of this park — and the same can be said of any other park, especially Central, or trail or sidewalk on which we run or walk or ride — isn’t good enough.
Restrictions on the use of Swan Lake and the Visitors’ Center are important for two reasons.
First, except for trails at the far south of the Park, one must go through Swan Lake to get from the eastern to the western side of the Rockies.
Second, water. The sole source is the Visitors’ Center, as is the sole bathroom.
Non-runners may say, “why can’t you just walk?” They say that because they’re non-runners. Like the guy who told me as I was doing intervals on a track that I should “take it easy.”
As a practical matter, I don’t particularly care about these restrictions since I would rarely, if ever, be in the Park at those peak times. The same is not the case for ultras, running (I don’t know how) for many hours.
I just don’t understand the need. Runners shouldn’t be rude. Walkers, or runners, shouldn’t be blocking the path and letting their dogs walk off-leash. (Apparently a 10-foot leash is allowed, but that seems too long for me; I believe 6 feet is the rule in NYC.) Horses? I give them a wide berth, and so should everyone else.
I’ve been running on trails in Westchester for nearly forty years. I’ve had few problems, even on single track trails far narrower than those at the Rockies.

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April 18, 2009 at 4:57 pm
anthonyp
Love the post ! To me, it all comes down to common sense and courtesy. If the larger groups can simply follow commen sense/courtesy, there would be no issues. It certainly isn’t the 2/3/4/5 person groups (for the most part). I was at Rockies today for about 4 hours, and it was a beautiful day with runners, walkers, dogs, horses, etc…..I saw no issues whatsoever.
April 18, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Bob Glover
yep—just ran there today at 4pm. Very active but not crowded. 60 people around the pond. No horses. Total of 5 runners. Everyone was pleasant and moved right for each other, smiled and said hello. No more than 3 per group of walkers and at least 50 yards apart. Beautiful day. Everyone sharing and enjoying nature. I thought of how it was such a wonderful way to escape stress, and then how of much stress will come when they impose rules on runners and confront them to attempt enforcement.
Maybe earlier in the day it was more busy, but my experience over 20 years is that today was typical. Few runners are out there in the afternoon. Many in the morning. More walkers in the afternoon than morning. A few runners will be rude. So punish them all? A few dog walkers, walkers, horse riders will be rude. When are the no dog, no horse, no walking hours?
We live in America. This is discrimination. We live in New York State. This is a state park. This is shameful.
I am keeping a log of “inspection” runs and suggest others do as well. Perhaps some should run the pond with camcorder to document what really goes on and at what times. Perhaps this situation deserves a survey by neutral people and video tape proof before implementing something that will cause the Rockies to be less than a peaceful path for runners and others?
Sorry, but I just don’t see the need for this. But if my eyes see it then fine. At worse, my guess is that the highest numbers are there in the afternoon. Few runners are there then and, as today, we are usually at that time single or pairs and politely work around any congestion.
Where’s the beef? Let’s see proof before rules. Let’s see education before rules. Let’s see enforcement with the specific users (such as large groups) rather than all runners………………….
April 18, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Margot Sheehan
I nominate Bob Glover for Grand Pooh-Bah of making trouble for these people who are making trouble. Who better? Sic ‘em, Bob.
April 19, 2009 at 1:09 am
Bob Glover
Ha! No thanks on your nomination. After negotiating to get the ugly bright yellow and red signs (that were not very friendly to runners and restricted us to no more than two at a time at the lake and surrounding trails at all times) removed and a pledge from management to be more runner-friendly, and bringing in $5,000 in donations (including from a regular on the trails—Khalid Khannouchi) for the Preserve to repair the badly damaged OCA (and I have a letter stating it is to be used for the OCA from the Sleepy Hollow HS to Rockwood—a trail on which many of us have tripped on rocks and roots and became injured), I got an award at the big party at the fancy Rockefeller mansion. “The Rockefeller State Park Preserve Stewardship Award for fortitude and generosity in supporting the preserve.” Quite enough awards for awhile. As it was a phony in the end.
We then all got stabbed in the back with this “walk only” rule with no prior discussion.
Grand Pooh-Bah is really not much of a compliment? But when people stick their necks out they invite criticism. And thus most runners look the other way.
Compliments to Joe for presenting his opinion. One that I had nothing to do with and I have never met him or anyone else on this post.
But we are all in this together. There is simply no justification for any restrictions on runners other than for large groups. Where are dog walkers banned if some dogs don’t behave? When are the “no horses” hours?
Most important: when are the “Run only” hours?
I made a stand and now I step back and invite others to attempt a peaceful negotiation on this real threat to the rights of runners.
To emphasize what Joe put in bold: I JUST DON’T SEE THE NEED for these restrictions. And trying to enforce them will only cause more problems than are solved?
April 19, 2009 at 6:04 am
Hal Higdon
Very interesting. Bob Glover sent me a link to this blog, which I posted on my V-Boards: http://www.trainingpeaks.com/bbs-forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=45491&posts=1
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